Excerpts from the awesome "dialogue" that took...
OP: -What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
-The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
Me: Please, oh please, tell me you posted this to mock it?
A Friend: I don't think so, JJ
Me: Really? *sigh* Okay... well, what does the government "give" to us? I would say the big ones would be public roads, schools, libraries, parks, etc., defense, Social Security, CHIP, Medicare and Medicaid. Since the government had a hand in building the road that leads to our home, did it then take away a road from someone else? If the government provided health insurance to a child, did it then take away health insurance from another child? ***the OP promptly deleted this entire comment, so I may be paraphrasing slightly
Me, continued: OR, was the person who originally came up with all these ridiculous statements (yes, I've read them all) merely pointing out that we have to pay for all these things via taxes? Because yes. That's true. That's actually the definition of government.
Another Friend: Hmm. I just took it as a deceptively simple way of looking at the government, which makes it easier to justify not helping the poor or making sure all people have access to health care, among other things.
OP: Wow... You guys are pretty mean! It's my wall, I can post what I would like to! Hope you both have better days, maybe your just in bad moods!!
A sympathizer to OP: Welcome to reality, OP ... you're going to run into this kind of reaction a lot. Post all the liberal ideas you want, and everybody will pat you on the back. Try posting conservative ideas, and you're supposedly the most misled, idiotic person on earth. But, you are absolutely correct, don't worry... and don't drink the Koolaid ;)
Me: How in the world is it mean to point out that the government provides roads...??? (which I see you deleted. nice.) And of course you can post whatever you want to. No one is suggesting you can't. But most people put things out there to start a discussion, correct? So... discuss.
OP: Thanks Sympathizer! Many people need to learn (accept, maybe) that there are soo many opinions and points of views! It is sad that instead of accepting our differences in opinions some automatically go on the defensive and choose to just say rude things, completely unprovoked! I doesn't at all change any of my beliefs and thoughts, it just makes me sad!! Ps... No, I just put it up there to post it because I like it :) not to discuss it! Have a good night
Me: Again, OP, what did I type that was, in any way, rude? And I see no defensive statements here at all (other than yours). This entire conversation is bizarre. You have a good night, too. ***Again, this comment was promptly deleted by the OP.
thesemotherfuckingsnakes: Yes, you have the right to say your opinion. I also have the right to say your opinion sucks. AND - you have a right to your own opinion, but not to your own facts. So annoyed today. ~JJ
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Evolution and Christmas Lights
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Judges 11:29-40 Cherry Picking!
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"Intelligent design" bill in Missouri
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Tim Tebow is clearly the Anti-Christ. It's in the... →
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